I drilled The Hustle POW and Hustle RIG to compliment my Hustle SAY/PRO's that I have. The POW was 75* x 5 x 35 while the RIG was 50 x 5 x 60 (pin in the ring finger). Both layouts compliment each other very well with the POW getting started later but in a stronger move than the RIG. The RIG is smoother and just a little earlier in it's motion off the back. I would recommend either the POW or RIG if you need more length than your SAY/PRO are giving you. These make great short length or lower volume pattern balls.