Just wanted to share that I shot 802 fresh out of the box. Old school, up the boards on the house shot. This ball looks like the real deal, especially if you are tired of trying to figure out all the over/under THS because you don't quite have the hand to move left, open your shoulder and grip and rip like the young 'uns. Square up, trust your yourself and be impressed. Thank you for finally providing a ball for the "average" rev rate bowler!